Liberty University Attacks Democrats Party Club
Really guys? You want to start with this game? Well don't hold your breath because you won't find well balanced colleges and universities pulling this kind of crap.
Liberty University will no longer recognize its campus Democratic club because, officials say, the national party's platform goes against the conservative Christian school's moral principles.
I recommend you change your name now before you continue to mislead anyone about your open minded, all loving Christ centered curriculum.
Officials at the private Lynchburg school, which was founded by the Rev. Jerry Falwell, said they made the decision after receiving complaints from trustees, parents and donors.
Oh Really?
Well I respect your narrowed minded stance, not really. But since you are a private university, knock yourself out. But I don't want to hear of a dime of taxpayer monies paying for any one's education there. No financial aid from the U.S. Government. You had better start handing a lot of scholarships out.
"They really are great kids and good friends of mine," said Jerry Falwell Jr., who became the school's chancellor after his father died in 2007. "It's just an issue of what Liberty's mission is."
Which is what exactly? I'm curious you Nazis.
This decision led to swift and strong criticism by Gov. Timothy M. Kaine, Chairman of the Democratic National Committee, and the three Democrats running to replace him. Kaine, who spoke on the campus on behalf of then-Sen. Barack Obama last year, urged the school to reconsider.
"For Liberty University to deprive the College Democrats of the same opportunity as College Republicans . . . violates that fundamental principle of fairness and teaches the students the wrong message," Kaine said.
You think? Why don't they start wearing white hoods as school uniforms?
Terry McAuliffe, one of the Democrats running for governor in the June 9 primary, organized a conference call with reporters last week to denounce the school's actions.
"People are tired of the division," McAuliffe said. I clearly second that.
The other Democratic gubernatorial candidates, R. Creigh Deeds and Brian Moran, released statements condemning the decision.
"Restricting free speech and discouraging students from participating in the political process are not what our colleges and universities should be about," Deeds, a Bath County senator, said.
"Colleges are supposed to be a marketplace of ideas -- even ones you might not agree with," said Jesse Ferguson, Moran's spokesman.
McAuliffe compared the Liberty flap to Republican gubernatorial nominee Robert F. McDonnell's opposition to Obama receiving an honorary degree from the University of Notre Dame because of his abortion views. I don't think Notre Dame had any business inviting President Obama if they disagreed with his policies so much....but then there is the media attention they received, which is why I suspect they went through with it. Hypocrites or political opportunist, both labels seem to fit here.
McDonnell, who attended Notre Dame and spoke at Liberty in March, said through his spokesman that he "personally disagrees" with Liberty's decision but that because it is a private school its leaders can make their own decisions.
If they are going to make calls like this, Honestly, I wouldn't want to send my children or grandchildren to such an institution. Boy, Republicans are really taking the loss of power in this country hard this time. If it isn't calls for sovereignty, succession, it is backlashes like this and Notre Dame throwing fits.
Guys, you are out of power for awhile...
Deal with it...and grow from the experience.
Deal with it...and grow from the experience.
Note: Update 2011
I have received more random acts of religious zealotry and slander on this one post than any other post I have written. Which only goes to prove what lengths some people will go to in pressuring others into thinking like they do. So if you are here to leave more trash talk, please be my guest. Why? Because I do believe in free speech, even when it comes from hateful people who want others to believe they walk with Jesus Christ. Good luck on that journey by the way. Try to remember that actions and words are speaking for your theology and philosophy in life.
Also for those who wish to leave anonymous hateful comments, be my guest. It shows how far your faith has carried you. If you say what you mean, and mean what you say...then leave your real name and we will talk. If not, please for the love of Christianity, quit being such narrow minded shallow people.
Peace be with you.
21 comments:
The entire controversy reminds me of the one time sportscaster of British football Ron Atkinson. Liberty's name is an unintended irony.
BOL! Very good! I like your take on it. Well adjusted. Thank-you for your thoughts.
So let me get this straight. Tolerance and diversity are no longer part of Christian core belief systems? Hard to keep up these days!
I don't seem to remember any period of time they were a part of church practice. Perhaps they were part of Jesus' teachings. Somehow they got left at the church doors.
Centuries ago....
Or maybe anyone that does not hold to the ideals and morals that a proper Christian should can just not attend the school and take advantage of the wonderful education it offers. While Christians should believe in tolerance, they should not be proponents of sin, nor should they support anyone who is. As far as diversity goes, a diverse background is accepted and hoped for, but diverse lifestyles are the antithesis of Christianity. We are supposed to love the sinner, but not the sin. Is it the university's fault that pro-life democrats are few and far between?
Thank you for your comment Anonymous.
You reveal your lack of Christ based Christian education by your use of words such as, 'proper' and 'antitheisis.' It was through a diverse world this faith has moved over the centuries. Sometimes in gentle ways, but most often at the point of a sword. Today you come with a barb comment. Ask yourself, how would have Jesus answered this blog. Relect and pray and you will find something quite different.
I am a Democrat and Pro-Choice. But within Pro-Choice I have the personal choice to be Pro-Life for me. Which I am.
When you teach faith at the point of a sword you will find it turned on you someday.
A true Christian does support a sinner. Christ did so himself. then brought the sinner to a new understanding. Example always speak louder than words, or swords.
If you eliminate the school Democrats which is what this blog is about, you eliminate people you can witness to. Think about it.
Too many Christians go around talking up the fact they feel persecuted. Stop and look at your own behavior and what it might do to contribute to your problem.
Ask what Jesus would have done in this matter and I think you will find the answer. Not the 'proper' arrogant one for today's politically charged Christian. Which you represent in spades.
Hummingbird, Liberty University did not eliminate school democrats. They simply said they could not support a club whose parent organization stands against the moral principles held by the university. A student that chooses to enroll at Liberty University knows exactly where the school stands before they choose to attend.Liberty University took a stand against the moral depravity represented by the Democrat party’s social platform - a platform in stark contrast to the principles of Scripture. We can have our disagreements as Christian’s on the validity of welfare, healthcare reform, the war on terrorism and tax increases, but there should be no room for debate in the Christian community when it comes to the sanctity of marriage and the unborn. As a reminder, they are a private university and under the constitution have the right and freedom to take this action. Can you extend the tolerance you shout so loudly about to them in this situation even though you disagree with their stand? Isn't that what tolerance is all about? Oh, I forgot, tolerance is only a one-way street for you liberals.
Whoa, hold the bus Old Crow...you forget the many Democrats in this country, who are Christian! Give me a break on your high minded values. Leave the Constitution out of this. I am sick of your religous twist on this document, which was intended to set up a government of the people for the people and not a religious state.
You need to look into the mirror and see the hypocracy of what you are saying. I went to a University and served in student government. I know exactly what it means when a club or organization looses it's support from the University. It looses it's funding. So if that is how you want to go about business. Go ahead and be my guest. But don't come Bible thumping around here. Because the Bible is used here. So are the teachings of Christ who taught tolerance. You Republican Christians have put a stain on what it means to be Christian and I am ashamed of you.
"Let he or she who is without sin, cast the first stone"....and I had better not catch you with any stones in your hands. Thanks to the hateful intolerance you constantly spew, your dance card is full.
And you are a chicken shit for not having a public blog...but feel you can come over to one that is and spew your religious filth.
Grow up and find Christ before you come back here.
humdinger - your comments support my last statement - "tolerance is a one-way street for liberals."
Your whole diatribe supports you narrow no tolerance stance. You must have found Jesus, if you back...but some how I am not holding my breathe.
You know like your party the Crow is an ancient archetype for death. As in death of the GOP? Have you also opened up your site yet? So that I might find the light which eminates fron your words of love and wisdom. Let me guess on that one.
I have four Presidents in my family line. I bleed patriotism, you spew hate. Good luck on the death of your party.
Not public yet...you must like to hit and run...that seems to be your style. What's that I hear? Jesus is calling you....fly away bird..you need to do some work.
I am a Christian conservative and I attend Liberty University. Diversity happens at Liberty. There are numerous non-Christians going to Liberty. Democrats too, oh my! As a Christian University, I understand Liberty taking a stand when one of its clubs endorsed a candidate that supports abortion and gay marriage. I hope we can disagree in a civil manner. The KKK image is way over the top.
Liberty made steps to peacefully resolve the story you reported on. Look into it.
God bless,
Tony
I think you all ought to reread the gospels concerning what Jesus did. To try to say what Jesus stood for without actually studying what He stood. Actually, when it came to the "religious community", Jesus was very firm to the point of being harsh! He drove the money changers with a whip from the temple. He called the false religious leaders who were spewing false teaching whitewashed tombs (you know, clean on the outside, maggot invested on the inside) and many other instances of . . . dare I say it . . . intolerance! Jesus always stood for the Word of God. The Bible is very clear in its teaching against sex outside of marriage, gay activities, and murder of the unborn. Liberty tries to stand for the Word of God. To do so, it must take a stand against anyone or anything that goes against God's Word . . . just like Jesus did. That doesn't mean there is no love for the lost; only an intolerance of sin. To live the Christian life in obedience to the Word of God is a very narrow view. But only a moron is open and tolerant of everything. The Bible calls such a person a fool. Wisdom is the ability to take what is true and righteous and not hold to what is evil. You may not like what the Word of God says, but you will stand before God Almighty and answer to Him personally. Until then, don't trash those who are trying to live according to what God's Word teaches.
You think I ought to reread the gospels huh? I can read the entire books of the Bible in Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, Latin, English, Spanish and French. The first few languages are critical for understanding, especially the gospels as they were written by men who never knew Jesus and did not understand the culture he came from. i.e. The Gospel of John. Even Paul did not know Jesus personally. Jesus never stood for intolerance in any version, except the one you perhaps have contrived. He was a teacher. By your use of the word "The Bible", I denote a sense of ownership here. You have only a small part of it. The books on the laws you address come from Leviticus. Not the gospels. Some of what has attributed to Jesus are questionable at the seminary level. Check your bible before your attack next time. If this is your doctrine, where is your love? "Judge not lest ye be judged." Attack on an issue not related to the post of exclusion of the Democrats on the campus. Also, you come here anonymously and spit only hate. For the record, I don't have to trash those who pretend to be living according to what Jesus said. You are making a good case on your own.
While you are at it, may I suggest you take some serious classes on church history? This may help you put the writers of the gospels in a proper context. It will also explain why some parts were included and some left out to spread the word of the new religion, historically speaking.
Go away in peace and come back when you do not spew what you do not understand. Please leave your name next time. People who leave anonymous accusatory statements lacking Christain love usually do just what you have left above.
Peace.
To Hummingbird- your comments have not shown me any evidence of Christ in your life. in fact they offer such things as bad language, extreme hate for those who disagree with you and your party, feeling you have a better understanding of God because you seem to be "educated", and a lack of fundamental understanding of scripture ( even if you can read it in how ever many languages it doesn't matter) i.e. John did in fact know Jesus personally. and Jesus did stand for intolerance, he rejected sin wholeheartedly! obviously whoever wrote this article is in someway very biased toward democrats and completely intolerant to what the officials at Liberty deem to be proper for their own private institution. Not every college in this country has to be a liberal, evolution, gay-marriage, and abortion supporting institution. this is a prime example of diversity- not supporting things that everyone says you should support.
Thank you for your thoughts. It was the Apostle Paul, not John who did not know Jesus. I apreciate your response. Remember 'Judge not lest he be judged."
After reading Hummingbird's comments I have one thing to say:
Romans 1:22 "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,"
Dear Anonymous...This post has been out for three years and some of you keep coming back to slander me. So I will close with this...Search your heart and if you feel it is your Christain duty to profess your superior theology over me, knock yourself out. I am at peace. If you really stood up for your beliefs, you would use you name and allow me to converse with you. Perhaps you have something to teach. But most likely you have something to hide. Sadly you have taken the low road and only articulated with biblical quotes taken out of context.
Wait a minute. I must have missed something, because a private christian school has stated that they don't support the liberal agenda we (the students) should dress in KKK uniforms?? Really? How about you don't send your kids there and you mind your own business. What's it to you anyway? And no student aid? why not because you don't like it? Last time I checked my taxes paid for your social programs and aid to students that go to secular schools. Your like the atheist kettle calling the pot black. I know, I am already prepared for your claims to be spiritual, maybe even a christian, lecture me on the true teachings of Christ, etc......Whatever! Oh and just to make sure I upset your sense of civility, I am a 2nd amendment supporting gun toting Christian too, my service in the United States Marine Corps gave me that right and you the right as well to spew your opinionated garbage.
Thank-you for your sevice to our country. It sets you above all Americans for your loyalty, and service to our great nation, but does not give you dominion.
George Washington said, "We will be remembered by how we treat our Veterans."
That being said, I excercise my full rights under the Constitution, for which my family fought for in the American Revolution, including the man who wrote the very document itself. We have served in every conflict since then.
Stand down Marine.
The the 1st and 2nd amendment are mine too.
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